University Digital Library Review Committee
Minutes of January 7, 1999
University of Central Florida
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Attendees: Grady, Barry, Janice, Rosann, Mark, Sherry, Pam, Shixing, John, Michele, Martha
Guests: Jim Corey. Absent: Margaret.
Minutes: Minutes will be rotated in alpha order by institution. Florida Atlantic University will do the minutes of this meeting.
Budget request preparation Discussion:
Budget discussion
- Hardware
- Software
- Services
- Must do a cost estimate for equipment needs.
- Include maximum/minimum hardware requirements.
- RAM and disk space - use larger numbers suggested by vendors for disk space and CPU. This will allow for Afudge factor.@
- Use machine size as place holder for server.
- Then calculate cost as a minimum in order to meet needs of the system.
- Services - conversion of data base, training, etc.
- Server size - will be different for each scenario, with the most costly being for the distributive scenarios.
- Equipment costs will be down from the year we write the request. Disk storage and phone line costs no longer drive the cost of a system. Staffing and maintenance currently drive costs.
- How much detail is needed in our budget request? Not much, but we need it as backup. A brief description is necessary for legislature.
- We must state a clear decision on our choice of scenarios in a statement to the library directors. They have not been asked to discuss this yet.
- Can we eliminate any scenario? We will take each scenario one at a time and discuss it.
FCLA
- We need to look at what FCLA can do also.
- Will we receive a proposal from FCLA?
- FCLA staff need to have a definitive document with specificity to say where we want to go.
- FCLA staff is currently developing serials check-in, acquisitions EDI capability, SUS-wide circulation.
- FCLA would like to gain control over its own equipment. Would like to purchase its own equipment in order to modernize the database structure to obtain more power and flexibility.
- The FCLA librarians are doing spec work and long-term design. They also need to support current operations.
- The major costing for FCLA is for staffing.
- FCLA is currently paying $3 million a year to NERDC ( some of this money is for databases).
- FCLA will also respond in some time table to the RFI.
Outside vendor
- Is there any vendor out there who has more than we have now?
- All who responded have consortia customers.
If we go to an outside vendor:
- we may lose flexibility and control. We would lose the evolutionary developmental approach.(Is loss of control necessarily a negative?).
- would have to commit to annual maintenance costs (which we currently do not have)
- we may gain a capability we do not have, primarily in technical services (need to do site visits to institutions to see their systems, as a measure of what actually exists before we embark on the Apoint of no return@; i.e., requesting and receiving money)
- large up-front costs
- elimination or downsizing of FCLA
- FCLA has a significant impact at the Board and legislative level. FCLA is very visible in terms of cooperation among institutions. The elimination of FCLA would eliminate a strong coordinating force for the SUS libraries, and also a powerful lobbying force. To wish away FCLA would be to reduce your own resources.@
- Budget request - either/or: Either an incremental request or money for a new system.
Scenarios discussion
- Size of servers different for different scenarios. Distributive costs - most costly scenario (10 or 11 systems); regional; one central system.
- Scoping of scenarios: institutional; overall; single bib record
- Option: maintain system locally .
- Grady: doesn't mean equipment is onsite; could be central or regional, as in Georgia, but would increase staff and hardware needs. Support costs are a factor.
Conclusion
- Scenario 3 - Not desirable; maximum cost for 10 separate systems; scoping issue goes away.
- Scenario 2 - our present scenario - 10 databases on one machine ; scoping may not be addressed by this scenario per Mark.
- Scenario 1 - can we eliminate? policy and people politics. A possibly good long term goal of one shared bibliographic record.
- Convergence on Scenario 2 - insist that scenario 2 include scoping capabilities we desire and presently have. Scoping= query by different levels; e.g., SUS; institution; processing unit or dept. location; location groups. Presently we have this. It is driven by location codes.
Concluding discussion:
- Jim Corey would like to work on normalizing vendor information - ad hoc
- Grady will draft an outline of a narrative for budget
- Committee members will share vendor information on budget figures and systems administration portion of RFI with Systems Committee rep for each of their institutions
- Remind the subcommittees for the functional areas who has copies of RFI responses; or take functional area of vendors response and distribute to subcommittee members
- We will also receive a response from Dawson group in the near future
- Committees to prepare spreadsheet regarding vendor responses to specific functional area questions
- Need some consistency to use when they give us presentations
- We should prepare scripts for vendor demos
- When we do visit customer installations, we might consider visiting in teams.
- TO Think about: We must know if CAVP will support our request before we go out
- We can get scenarios for examination from Missouri, Kansas, etc.
- Jim: If we are going off mainframe, to free up money to NERDC, we need a home for 20 data bases. Need to have the Public Services Committee or ECC think about alternative search engines. FCLA/Grady will do a statement to submit to Public Service Committee.
- Jim will donate some travel money for visiting customer sites.
Summary of concluding discussion:
- Will share budget proposal and narrative with Systems Committee rep at each institution.
- Committee chairs will share sections with their committee members.
- Also look into preparing specific requirements for vendors with the idea of a script for vendor demos.
- Will visit customers at some point. If vendors want to come on site it is okay.
- Will submit recommendations to directors in March.
- Next meeting: we will decide when we want to get together at a later date
- When will we know if our request gets into the budget? June or July. Legislature usually rubber stamps anything CAVP approves.
(Drafts of Budget Request and Budget Request Detail included in separate attachment)
Meeting adjourned at 2:40 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Janice E. Donahue